"What ! ' Its not in there?"

WASHINGTON -- Turns out there is a problem with limiting the pay of highly compensated bankers: the Wall Street high flyers pay taxes, too.

Imagine this: Capping top bank executives at $400,000 a year, as the Senate version of the $800-plus billion economic stimulus had called for, would have cost the government $11 billion in lost tax revenue by 2019. That's more than $1 billion a year, according to an estimate this week by the Congressional Budget Office.

Ouch.

Eager to lower the price of the stimulus package, congressional negotiators working on the final bill made the pay cap disappear.

Dodd said that even though the salary cap had been removed from the final bill, he was still hearing objections from major financial institutions.

"I just find it incredible that people are calling up and bellowing about this," he said on the Senate floor. "We're in the deepest economic crisis in the lifetime of any living American, and they're worried about their pay."

You know what is funny about this scenario is I think that just a week or so ago these two faced dirt bags voted themselves a pay increase, hummmmmm. Oh no that wasn't me that was my left hand, my right hand didn't know what was going on so there for I did not whole heartedly approve of the increase that it, I, I mean it ( left hand) right hand oh no I'm confused, voted for.

Not only would it cost the government money it would deprive the industry of some of the best minds at what they can do best. I mean after all it took them approximatly 8 to16 years to help us get to the financial hell that we are in. Some one of lesser talents might have been able to have gotten it done within, oh say, the 2nd term of (BJ) Clinton. In turn helping the U.S. from having to suffer through all those years of antisipation just waiting for the other shoe to fall.

Ok just a couple mpore of the absolutly necessary items in the stimulus bill HR 1,

Texas. -- 886,000 for a frisbe course

Florida -- 4.5 million for an ecological park

Virginia --1.8 million for tennis courts

California -- 500,00 for a dog park

Now would the real reason for the hurry up itis please stand up. What about the openness and honesty that was supposed to be present with President"him whose name shall not be mentiond". We the people were supposed to be able to view the bills as they are presented for at least 48 hours before they would be voted on so we could possible have some sort of input into the process. Y

You know what? " I still want to see his damn BIRTH CERTIFICATE" not a certificate of live birth. At the risk of sounding like the liberals when Bush was president, He may have gotten elected but HE IS NOT MY PRESIDENT, till I see the certificate. He is a liar and a thief.

later

Idahojoe

The written soliloquy

Kind of a big work for such a short fat guy but that is OK with me.
You know some times there comes a point in your life that you just dont know where to start to say something cause there is just too much to talk or write about. That is the perdicument that I find my self in today. These ( Jesus may you hurry and take their soul jerks) elected officials that we have in Washington have done the best that they can do to put some of the most rediculous stuff into this stimulous budget. Get ready with the tape. Hold ona moment,-----schreee, schreee, schreeeeeee, that is the sound of me taping my head up so it wont explode as I write this next line. One of the things that they put in the stimulus bill is ---are you ready for this, 30 million dollars to help save the field mouse in san francisco ( no capitalization for s.f. cause they dont deserve it).
O.M.G. doesn't it just cause your head to hurt to think about what is going on. To think that some body actually voted them in to office. A FRICKIN FIELD MOUSE. Please give me a major break. I'm afraid to even look to see what else is in the damn thing.
Transparency I bvelieve that is what obbbaaaaama ,SOJ (son of jihid) said his term was going to be all about.I guess that is is transparent, well maybe a mis-spelling or maybe a mis- pronounciation it was supposed to be apparent. Apparent that he will be able to go down in history that he was the first, last and only black son of jihid to single handedly bring down the most powerful nation in the world.
Ok have you heard about a guy in Arizona by the name of Roger Barnett, If you would like to donate a few dollars to this family please contact him at www.barnettsaz.co
I will attach a news articl bout what is taking place with this unfortunate land owner in Arizona.

An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.

Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home.

His Cross Rail Ranch near Douglas, Ariz., is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as "the avenue of choice" for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally.

Trial continues Monday in the federal lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett's wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live. The civil trial is expected to continue until Friday.

The lawsuit is based on a March 7, 2004, incident in a dry wash on the 22,000-acre ranch, when he approached a group of illegal immigrants while carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog.

Attorneys for the immigrants - five women and 11 men who were trying to cross illegally into the United States - have accused Mr. Barnett of holding the group captive at gunpoint, threatening to turn his dog loose on them and saying he would shoot anyone who tried to escape.

The immigrants are represented at trial by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), which also charged that Sheriff Dever did nothing to prevent Mr. Barnett from holding their clients at "gunpoint, yelling obscenities at them and kicking one of the women."

In the lawsuit, MALDEF said Mr. Barnett approached the group as the immigrants moved through his property, and that he was carrying a pistol and threatening them in English and Spanish. At one point, it said, Mr. Barnett's dog barked at several of the women and he yelled at them in Spanish, "My dog is hungry and he's hungry for buttocks."

The lawsuit said he then called his wife and two Border Patrol agents arrived at the site. It also said Mr. Barnett acknowledged that he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

In March, U.S. District Judge John Roll rejected a motion by Mr. Barnett to have the charges dropped, ruling there was sufficient evidence to allow the matter to be presented to a jury. Mr. Barnett's attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants did not have the same rights as U.S. citizens.

Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.

Some of his cattle died from ingesting the plastic bottles left behind by the immigrants, he said, adding that he installed a faucet on an 8,000-gallon water tank so the immigrants would stop damaging the tank to get water.

Mr. Barnett said some of the ranch´s established immigrant trails were littered with trash 10 inches deep, including human waste, used toilet paper, soiled diapers, cigarette packs, clothes, backpacks, empty 1-gallon water bottles, chewing-gum wrappers and aluminum foil - which supposedly is used to pack the drugs the immigrant smugglers give their "clients" to keep them running.

He said he carried a pistol during his searches for the immigrants and had a rifle in his truck "for protection" against immigrant and drug smugglers, who often are armed.

ASSOCIATED PRESS DEFENDANT: Roger Barnett said he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

A former Cochise County sheriff´s deputy who later was successful in the towing and propane business, Mr. Barnett spent $30,000 on electronic sensors, which he has hidden along established trails on his ranch. He searches the ranch for illegal immigrants in a pickup truck, dressed in a green shirt and camouflage hat, with his handgun and rifle, high-powered binoculars and a walkie-talkie.

His sprawling ranch became an illegal-immigration highway when the Border Patrol diverted its attention to several border towns in an effort to take control of the established ports of entry. That effort moved the illegal immigrants to the remote areas of the border, including the Cross Rail Ranch.

"This is my land. I´m the victim here," Mr. Barnett said. "When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back."

thanks

Idahojoe

A chicken for every one

"Chicken in Every Pot" is a quotation that is perhaps one of the most misassigned in American political history. Variously attributed to each of four presidents serving between 1920 and 1936, it is most often associated with Herbert Hoover. In fact, the phrase has its origins in seventeenth century France; Henry IV reputedly wished that each of his peasants would enjoy "a chicken in his pot every Sunday." Although Hoover never uttered the phrase, the Republican Party did use it in a 1928 campaign advertisement touting a period of "Republican prosperity" that had provided a "chicken in every pot. And a car in every backyard, to boot."

Well it is going to be a saying once again. Except now we have seen it in action. It started with a house for the lady in Florida. Remember the black lady who stood ( cried )and ask obaaaamma (SOJ) (son of Jihad) if he was going to help her. She lived with her (37) year old son who was a computer programmer and had lost his job now they are forced to live in a car and waa waa waa, you know the story from thousands of others. I AM NOT MAKING LIGHT OF HER STORY OR HER PROBLEM. But give me a major break, (SOJ)'s staff talked to her and put her in contact / the housing authority. What happened is that some citizen gave them their # and said that they had a house that they could live in, as of this morning they have not gotten hold of the Samaritan who offered the house. the problem probably started because some damn dirty ole slum lord actually wanted to collect money for his building and he had the audacity to kick her out for not paying her payment. Now mind you the house that is offered is probably going to require a payment also but the thing that is exceptional is that an INDIVIDUAL not the government stepped forward and offered. Whether she takes the house or not is not the point. In fact I dont believe SOJ can see colors, he only sees in black and white. If that sounds racist I mean for it to. It is not the white community that is racist. There are racist in every walk of life but mark my words by the time that SOJ is out of office I think that the race relations will be right back where they were in the 60's. I dont believe that he is not kissy kissy huggy person that he is portraying himself to be. I





Now back to the chicken.
when the woman was interviewed after the one rally that obbbaaaama had and she said that she was going to be so happy when he was elected cause "I won't have to worry about my house payment or putting gas in my car any more, if we support him he will take care of me".
Little did we know that she must have been looking into a crystal ball. I think the proof is in the pudding so far, and a chicken will soon be in every pot.
Well now, I have an idea. I have a sister who has a disability and cant seem to get any help to get on disability after she has paid into SSI for about 35 yrs. maybe if she were to go to these town hall rallys and ask SOJ for help he could just have his staff check into it for her. Oh, OH, wait since he is seen by so many as being the messiah she could just e-mail him and if her were to just read it--just read it it would be taken care of. Yes Yes YES YES that is her answer why didn't I think of it sooner. Hold on I'll be right back, have to make a call. WOW how exciting this is going to be. -------- OK I'm back-------
She seems so excited that I may just have to go over and throw water on her to calm her down some. I mean after all what is she going to do to me, she is disabled like I said.
With all of this going on and all I hoe that you have down loaded the French National Anthem and have started to learn it. Because if you dont get off of your lazy asses and start telling our elected officials what WE want and how WE want things done WE are going to get our just deserts.
Oh yea now this morning I hear that Governor Otter wants to raise taxes on gas to fix our roads. I say to hell with our roads, leave 10 minutes earlier and slow down to keep from damaging your car. It is built to not only drive on pavement it can maneuver on gravel roads also. Get rid of some of the waster that is going on in our state and get rid of some of the dead weight that is (working) for us to just earn a paycheck and not produce a damn dimes worth of labor in the course of earning it. There is not a business around that will put up the the lackadaisical work ethics that the government and union shops produce now days, if they want to make money and stay in business. It really is no wonder that Idaho went to a right to work state. Believe me I like unions when they are doing their jobs. Problem is that they seem to have forgotten that if they dont produce labor for pay eventually business is down down gone. Where is the worker then With their hand out to SOJ, Big Brother.
I think I have gotten side tracked here.
Going to shut down for now do some more study cause my head is just starting to split, I must find more to make it blowup---hummm where did I put my tape?
Later
Idahojoe

call 'em

Member Name	DC Phone	DC FAX	Electronic Correspondence
Senator Mike Crapo (R- ID)	202-224-6142	202-228-1375	http://crapo.senate.gov/contact/email.cfm
Senator Jim Risch (R- ID)	202-224-2752	202-224-2573	http://risch.senate.gov/webform.cfm
Representative Walter (Walt) Minnick (D - 01)	202-225-6611	202-225-3029	https://forms.house.gov/minnick/contact-form.shtml
Representative Mike Simpson (R - 02)	202-225-5531	202-225-8216	http://www.house.gov/simpson/emailme.shtml

You can get straight thru to the D.C. office phone # you have to leave your name and full address.
It doesn't hurt and it will make youfeel all warm and fuzzy on the inside. Ummmmm good!!
If you are reading this stop and call them about the stimulus package and also a no vote on the HR45 bill - concerns gun control legislation.
thank you
Idahojoe

many ruled by a few.

Just thinking about the fact that so many of us are told what, where, when and what to do by just a few. In relationship to the proportion of the population that are being led by the few it is most likely that it is about 4% telling the other 96% of us our marching orders.We are told that there isn't a God and that even though we believe we are going to have to change our way of thinking just to bring us in to line with the few. It is a case of the squeaky wheel gets the grease. Well don't you think that it is about time to become the squeaky wheel. Start sounding off--- not just to your friends but also to the people we have in elected office. Now think of it what would happen if we en-mass were to start taking and calling to account the school board. Just what we could accomplish in the education sector of just our small piece of the world. I know that we are allowing our kids and grand kids to be taught things about our history as a Nation that are not true. Why? Because of the fact that we are allowing teachers to be hired that are liberals, they are liberals because of the professors that taught them. It may sound like an endless cycle but it is not. There are alternatives to the education of our children. There are charter school and parochial schools that are not presenting the liberal point of view as an absolute fact. You can not just teach kids one side of a subject because the human mind is meant to be inquisitive and to want to ask WHY it is the way that it is. You have to let them learn just what the differences are in life about different subjects. Make things interesting to the students. Have an environment that is conducive to learning and not just to receive a pay check. There are some instructors who are going to present only one thought and it has to be taken as the only truth and that is just the way it is. They do not want to hear or accept any other alternative to the theory because it isn't clean clear or sterile enough and it would cause them to have to do some additional research into their field of "expertise". COME ON AMERICA --WAKE UP.
Now apply the same principle to some of the other elected officials in our country. Just because they are elected and have been in that position for so long that they have the shape of their ass indented into the chair they set in does not mean that we can not send them and the chair home.
I t is cheaper in the long run to elect some one new and buy a new chair than it is to just set back and let some idiot dictate to us about what we MUST do in order to help support the rest of the world.

To write all of this is just to get myself ready to say,"I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take any more".
Just who do the do gooders think that they are.I'm tired of having some one tell me almost on a daily basis what to do or how I should be thinking about just about every aspect of my life. I may be just one person who is writing and telling myself that I'm mad but I intend to start branching out.
We as a nation are the most giving and concerned people in the world, I believe. I think that is one of the reasons that we have become so passive in our thought. We have thought that our elected officials have the same core principals as the rest of us. Well I think that the selfish nature of mankind has manifest its self in every one of our offices and in many of the private sector jobs and industries.
I realize that as a nation that has been so blessed by GOD that we have a very large responsibility to the rest of man-kind and we must take it very serious. But we must also realize that if we are not careful of our selves that there wont be a United States of America to try to help others in this world. We could cut back a significant amount of our giving, lets say to the people who are not thinking too kindly of us. If there comes a time when they really need us and are ready to accept our helping hand and be civil to us as a nation then by all means extend the hand in the name of God. help them learn how to feed cloth and be financially responsible. We were at one time responsible, but now that the insane are running this country and we don't seem to be able to get them locked up fast enough we are quickly going to hell in a hand basket.
Our Lord Jesus would not want us to be fiscally irresponsible as we are now. But on the other hand it could be very well getting close to the time that was talked about, the second coming.

Just what is it going to take to make people set up and take notice of all that is going on.This morning while I was having coffee at the Sun Rise restaurant one of the guys made the comment that he just wasn't interested because any thing that we did would not matter any way. I sharply explained that if he didn't take some responsibility and start voting--- whooh he said I vote. Great. But do you help others understand the importance that how they vote affects others. It turned into a good conversation with about 12 of us. Most of whom were on the same page that I was on.
Use the Internet to increase your knowledge of the political world and just what the agenda is that is being espoused to the people of this nation and the world.
I think that I might be done for the day now, probably not, but done till the next insight pops into my head.thanks
Idahojoe

tree deaths

Heh heh heh;
some times I am such a turd I cant stand it myself. I sent this e-mail off today can hardley wait to see the answer. I mean dont I sound a very concerned tree hugger.I got this info of www.usgs.gov
You know you just gotta love the internet and what it can get you for information.
Later got to go to a class at the church for now. I must learn how to be a nicer person before I die....
Idahojoe

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe

To: pvanmantgem@usgs.gov

Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 9:31 AM

Subject: tree deaths

Phil;

Isn't it quite possible that the number of increased tree deaths can be a direct result in the increase in the Number of bark beatles causing the deaths which in turn would cause more localized regional warming. As I understand it the decay of dead trees and vegitation causes greenhouse gases to be emited.

Has there been any developement in ways to combat the beatles devistating effects on our forests.

Also what is the possibility of the increase in the vast amount of asphalt, cement and other man made structures causing the increase in the regional increase of warming. In 40 years just look at the fact that there has been millions of acres of asphalt & ect added to the Planet just here in these United States. Not even considering the addition of what has been done world wide.

Thank you

Joe

nampa, Idaho

Nancy: Diane & Arnold

Well I can just imagine the twittering and planning that is going on in California and it's leadership of all of the congressmen and senators. Just how do we go about getting our hands on lots of the spending package money.
Why hell if we tweak the books just a little bit we can show SOJ ( son of jihad) obaaammmmma
that we need the largest share of the money right here in our state because we will be able to save at least 1 million jobs and create probably that many again. I know that as the biggest pain in the rear state and the most liberal we can justify it all because we are the leaders in greenie tech, cars smart grid and all the rest of that liberal crap that our wonderful x vice president and holly wood liberals , green peace and every other nut case that has chosen to live in that state.We can set up all of these liberal programs that necessarily cut jobs by there very nature and the rest of the nation can support us liberal pukes.
God, cant you just hear the jubilation in their girlie voices from all of the girlie men as Arnold said a few years back.
I am almost sick to my stomach because of the enormity of this bill that is set before our senate and getting ready for a vote possibly as soon as tonight. I pray to God that it does not happen until the light of day has been able to settle in on the minds and common sense of the senate, if there is any still left in that den of thieves.
What has made the American people believe that we have to stand by and let those people just run over us like we were a bunch of rented mules.
We really are the strength of this nation and we are the ones who give the power to our elected officials, we need to stand up and scream to the top of our lungs, " I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take any more" and mean it. stop what you are doing now and get on google and google up some congressmen and senators addresses and write them. Tell them your mad and ready to do something about it. write and call you can even write and call some of the dems. from other states. Get a fire built under your ass and do something. Tell them to get every thing out of the package that does not directly create JOBS.
If by chance you are not scared for your self then you should by all rights be scared for your kids, grand kids and greatgrand kids.
I feel as though my head is going to explodehold on a minute please.--------------
---------------------- OK Im back.
I had to wrap some duct tape around my hear so it wouldn't explode, I am looking for a very good pair of eye goggles so that when every thing goes at once and the blood starts shooting from my eyes (as Glen Beck says ) I will be able to avoid making a large mess in my wifes house.
Well I hope I have raved enough for one night and gotten it off my back so that I will be able to sleep OK. Good night to you all
Idahojoe